I have recently been looking into shilintong for one of my guineas and am hoping to get a clarification on the dosing for the herbal medication. I have read the section on shilintong in the bladder stones section, and understand the dosing there:
- 1 pill in about 2.0 cc water and syringed 1.0 cc twice/day
But was wondering specifically which brand it is for?
My first guess was that it was the Solstice version as that is the only one labelled shilintong on fareastginseng. However as I continued to research and read through other threads, it appears that there are two extremely similarly packaged shilintong brands that are the most common and frequently appearing. One is distributed by Shen Clinic and manufactured by “Guangdong Enterlife Pharmaceutical co. Ltd.” and the other distributed by Solstice and manufactured by “Anhui Dongshengyoubang Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd.”.
I am unsure, but it appears that at some point fareastginseng may have swapped from the Shen Clinic/Guangdong manufactured version to the Solstice/Anhui manufactured version. This would make sense as in the original thread it is noted on that:
- “The ingredient is Coin Leaved Desmonium [sic] / 19g+”
- “Coin Leaved Desmodium 1.75g”
As of now my best guess is that the version in question is the Shen Clinic/Guangdong manufactured version, and I have now ordered it to replace the Solstice version I originally got. Unfortunately the image links to the product on the original thread seem to be broken, so I cannot be absolutely certain.
Onto actual dosing concerns
The bladder stones page says in essence:
- 1 pill dissolved in about 2.0 cc water and syringed 1.0 cc twice/day
Recipe 1
- “I just took a pill and let it sit in about 1/2 tspn of water. Then I filled 2 x 1cc syringes and give her one in the a.m. and one in the evening.”
Recipe 2
- “It seems I can get 3 x 1cc syringes out of 1 pill by adding 1/2 teaspoon of water to it. I give her one syringe in the morning and one at night.”
Recipe 3
- “I simply let 1 tablet dissolve in about 2-3 tablespoons of water. Then, I syringed her 1cc twice/day”
[Math for reference: 2tbsp=29.5735cc rounded to 29.6 then to 30 for the calculations. 3tbsp=44.3603cc, rounded to 44.4 then to 44 for the calculations.]
Which is much different than a whole tablet, and much different to the dosing provided on the bladder stones page. The most recent dosing was recipe 3, but all of these were provided in 2005, at around the same time frame (Recipe 1: May 11th 2005. Recipe 2: May 16th 2005. Recipe 3: July 26th 2005)
Additionally, a different user mentions that “1 pill dissolved in about 2.0 cc water and syringed 1.0 cc twice/day” worked for them on two separate versions of the shilintong, likely the Guangdong and Anhui versions judging from the descriptions given.
So, which recipe is the correct one? And for which brand?
I am very, very nervous about accidentally overdosing my boy, which is why I’m posting this to hopefully make 100% sure I have the correct product and the correct dosage.
Many thanks,
V
P.S.
I feel that it is pertinent to mention that I do not know if it is proper etiquette to mention another user by name unless attempting to summon them, so I haven’t. However, if need be I do have the threads and user written down and will post thread links to help.