Jewel and Jinx's medical thread

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daisymay
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Post   » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:30 am


Okay, I am not sure if they have another thread somewhere but can't find it so sorry if they do have one. Have just finished cleaning Jinx a 3 year old female and noticed she is passing blood when urinating.

There is no squeaking no signs of pain. She is eating and maintaining weight. Have booked her into see vet Tuesday. Any suggestions? When will this nightmare end? Vets are clueless. I know she will need X-rays but what else?

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daisymay
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Post   » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:54 am


Choloe passed blood years ago and it was found she had tumour wrapped around her bladder. She was allowed to sleep forever.

Then Zoe also passed blood it too was tumours but this time on the uterus which was removed! Keeping close eye on Jinx and have her on white towel. Thanks in advance.

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Sef
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Post   » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:39 am


We have only had males here, and blood in the urine has always meant either UTI, bladder stones or both. Urinalysis and xrays are a good start. Hopefully it's something as "simple" as a bladder infection. If so, ask for SMZ. It's the go-to med for UTI and generally well tolerated, but with your pigs' history of tummy trouble, do use probiotics if ABs are needed.

Otherwise, I imagine other imaging will be needed to look for reproductive issues.

Good luck on Tuesday.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:14 am


Ditto Sef. Most common, bladder stones. An infection of the uterus (pyometra) is a possibility. Any squeaking while peeing?

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daisymay
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Post   » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:22 am


Hopefully it's something as "simple" as a bladder infection. If so, ask for SMZ.

What is SMZ? Take people who have depression in the USA you have say 60 different drugs one could take. Here we have around 15. So not sure if vet will have SMZ. SMZ is Bactrim. So if Jinx has an infection I will ask for more Bactrim.

Jill is currently on Bactrim and has been for 2 weeks. As she was eating and losing weight. Teeth checked but OK.Then it took them 3 goes to work out Jaffa had spurs and tongue trapped and had hole in it. So who knows with Jill and her teeth? So far NO ill affects on Jill she is on Protexin too.
Any squeaking while peeing?
No squeaking while peeing or pooping. No symptoms at all except for the blood which is bright in colour. Going to ask for X-rays, Urine test, anything else?

Thanks Sef and Lynx! This is the first time Jinx has been sick. She and her sister Jewel are three.(February 28th 2020).

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:02 pm


Daisymay, I hope this is something easily treatable. You take such good care of your piggies, I’m hoping for the best!

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daisymay
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Post   » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:52 am


Thank-you for the reply ItsaZoo. Since I posted there has not been much blood. Just little spots. Still going to the vet for ease of mind. Will take Jill in too to get her weighed on their scales. To see if she is improving. Will keep you posted. Thanks again!

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daisymay
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Post   » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:22 am


Vet had a few emergencies to contend with so Jinx is rebooked for tomorrow. Funny thing is she passed blood Easter Sunday but hasn't done so since. Do sows have that time of the month and is that what we saw? It was the size of my pinkie finger nail.

White towels have been clean except for first one where she did a pee with pink blood in it and small blotches on it. The last 3 towels have been clean. What do you think?

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Sef
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Post   » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:03 am


From what I understand, it is not common but can happen with certain females. If you do a search on the Medical board for "bleed" and user name "bpatters" (without quotation marks), you'll find a number of threads where this has been answered and may be helpful to you.

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daisymay
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Post   » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:57 am


Took Jinx to the vet. On queue Jinx wee'd the table top. Tested and no blood. Had abdomen manipulated and she felt no crystals or stones. She believes that maybe Jinx passed a stone. Was told keep an eye on her and bring her back if happens again and X-rays maybe taken. Thanks for the reply Sef.

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Sef
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Post   » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:06 am


Interesting and entirely possible on having passed a stone. It's a lot more common with females than males, and just something you'll want to keep an eye on. Lowering overall calcium in the diet may help prevent future stones.

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Post   » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:32 am


I am sure you already know that palpating the abdomen will not tell you if there are crystals or stones in the bladder. They can only be ruled out by xray (or perhaps by ultrasound, though xray is much better).

I hope she is fine going forward.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:37 am


Daisymay, I would make a note of the date you noticed the blood. If it happens again in about 16 days, it could be hormonal. I’ve been keeping an eye on Lacey since Thanksgiving when I took her in and was told it was probably a UTI. The second vet we visited did an ultrasound and saw nothing abnormal in the abdomen, bladder, or uterus. She mentioned it could be hormonal, and there have been blood spots at 16-day intervals.

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Sef
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Post   » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:08 am


Good info!

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:52 am


Over 18 years ago I wrote, "I was reminded by a friend that while guinea pigs are not known to have menstrual cycles with bleeding, it has been reported that a few will bleed a small amount -- a smear here or there -- for one to two days."

I have described Snowflake having a few drops of blood at regular intervals during times of her life.

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daisymay
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Post   » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:27 am


Thanks for the replies Lynx, Sef and ItsaZoo! Jinx passed blood Easter Sunday April 12th so on April 27th will put a white towel in her cage and she if she passes anymore. Thanks again! So far no more blood!

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daisymay
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Post   » Sat May 02, 2020 5:12 am


The amount of blood Jinx is losing is not much, not sure if you are common with an Australian 5 cent piece it is half the size of that. ItsaZoo you said one of your female piggies bled for a while once every 16 days.

We are keeping close eye on her, will again around May 12th put white towel on top of her bedding and see if it happens for the the 3rd time. Last time she bled on April 12th, April 26th put towel on bedding, no blood till April 28th, kept a clean white towel(changed every day) and from April 29th to today NO blood. Will see if it happens again in 16 days.
This web page disagrees with you https://www.guineapigtube.com/do-guinea-pigs-menstruate/


But if this is the case why does it only happen every 16 days? Jinx has had urine tested and blood free. She is happy, eating, peeing, pooping and maintaining weight. She is NOT crying out in pain. She is one happy piggy. Anyways will keep you posted. Off to watch Finding Dory, then tea. Thanks for the replies. Keep you posted!

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat May 02, 2020 8:15 am


An interesting article. It does not have any scientific studies describing in detail the estrus cycle and absence of the possibility of blood (none of the linked to articles' abstracts that deal with the cycle itself mention the presence or absence of rare bleeding during a menstrual cycle). While bleeding during an estrus cycle is not at all common, those very few cyclical spottings that have been reported say to me that more needs to be known. The article does claim "something else" is going on during the apparent spotting/bleeding (certainly can be true).

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Sef
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Post   » Sat May 02, 2020 9:50 am


Additionally, bpatters has addressed this quite a few times over the years. I thought I had suggested searching for her user name and the word "bleed." Some examples:
Sows can also bleed during a heat period, although they usually don't. If you don't see any more today, but if it recurs in a couple of weeks, I'd assume it's heat-related. That might be indicative of hormonal or other reproductive issues.
Although sows don't ordinarily bleed when in heat, occasionally one will. If this is what's going on with your sow, you'll see it every 14-16 days for a day or so, but not in between.
While guinea pig sows do not usually bleed during heat, one will occasionally spot. If all you're seeing is a drop or two of blood, and if there's no odor, that's probably what's happening. If you're seeing more blood, or there's an obvious odor, she needs to see a good exotic vet.
In and of itself, [bleeding] doesn't seem to be a problem, but since it's happened twice, you might want to get her checked out by an exotic vet to make sure there's no infection or tumor of the reproductive tract.

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daisymay
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Post   » Sat May 02, 2020 12:30 pm


1. Vets here are clueless. 2. She had an urine tested no blood in it. 3. I did read your suggestion about Bpatters but have been very busy with Jinx, Jay and Jill. 4. Both my husband and I are under the weather with some virus(NOT Covid) that's going around and it is all we can do to drag ourselves out of bed. 5. Still having PC problems, had to save all data and the reinstall Windows 10. Trying to tie up lose ends with it. Finishing touches.

Thanks for the replies Lynx and Sef. Thank-you Sef for taking the trouble to post some of her post. Information included in them was very interesting! For now am watching the girls and will go to the vet if any problems pop up. Thanks again!

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