Violet's medical thread

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Zaphy

Post   » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:50 pm


Discovered last night that if I just hold her water bottle up to her face, she'll drink from it. She just won't go to it herself. How weird.

Also forgot to note that she seems to be pretty itchy on her belly where her fur was shaved. I do not see any irritation or hair loss, so I am guessing that it is just that she doesn't like a buzzed tummy, but I will keep an eye on it. I recall hearing that stress can 'bring out' mites, so to speak.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:18 pm


If it was shaved very closely, the wrong way, when the hairs grow out they can kind of poke the skin and hurt. Look to see if there is red irritation.

This is what happens sometimes when a female (or male, I imagine) shaves hair on their own bodies. Depending on the direction and closeness of the shave, it can hurt when growing out.

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Zaphy

Post   » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:40 am


Small update, Violet is drinking a small amount on her own. Still having to supplement though, and she's still leaving only about half the poops in her cage that her sister is. Her low weight today was 1078 and high weight was 1110.

I am going out of town on Thursday, and I have a vet appointment for Violet on Wednesday before that to have her checked to make sure she's ok. Might do an ultrasound again to see if there's any internal change, though I don't feel anything different. I suspect her cyst burst again, because I'm not feeling the lump right now and she seems a little more pained today even with the meloxicam. I really wish I didn't have to leave town this week... but I'm training my husband to handfeed her and what to watch for while I'm gone. If he's unable to handle nursing her, the vet offers medical boarding with emergency staff on duty overnight that he can take her to.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:27 am


Your husband is a good guy! Hope it goes well while you are gone.

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Zaphy

Post   » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:37 am


Vet said he thinks the meloxicam may have been causing some GI upset, so we're trying her off of that and bumping up her CC feedings. They gave her some sub-q fluids plus some vitamin C, but he thinks she's doing pretty good.

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Zaphy

Post   » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:44 pm


Happy to report that Violet returned to normal while I was gone, though it took about a week of the husband being very diligent and VERY patient with her hand feedings :) He's upset that I ever taught Violet to hop up on my shoulders when she wants to go back to the cage... it makes for some difficult nail trimmings and hand feedings! Her weight is back up to 1150-1170g :)

I'll update again when it's time to try again with the spay- it will probably not be till May, as we've had some things come up during April. Hoping that nothing worsens in the meantime.

Also, on an off topic note- Lynx, the new forums look great!

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:38 pm


So glad you like them! There are a few new features, too!

And very happy to hear she is doing well!

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Zaphy

Post   » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:02 am


Violet's still not been spayed- we've had a lot of excuses pop up but I think mainly I'm just really scared to have her go under anesthesia again given that she responded so poorly the first time. I know that the vets did recommend trying again and I still basically plan on it but I'm just... going to be really crushed if I kill her by trying to spay her (for new readers, she has ovarian cysts, no external symptoms).

In the meantime though, an unrelated question- I found some blood on a spot that Violet had been chewing so I assume she cut her mouth, but upon checking her lips, front of mouth and tongue, could not find a cut. If a cut is small enough to stop bleeding that fast, should I be concerned about infection? If it were on her skin outside I wouldn't be too worried, just that it might be inside her little poopy mouth. Not sure if this one's worth a trip to the vet?

Talishan
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Post   » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:00 pm


Does she have a cagemate and if so, do they scuffle from time to time? If so, check the cagemate.

Their mouths and tongues heal exceptionally fast, but they rarely cut them. This one's a little weird to me. I wouldn't necessarily run to the vet, but I'd want to know where the blood came from.

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Zaphy

Post   » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:51 pm


She does, they don't really, but I did anyway, heh. Same thing, I just figured the advice would be the same. No clue where the cut is/was- and I figure for the blood to have escaped their mouths it would have had to be near the front where I'd be able to see it. I guess I'll just... check their mouths for a while and watch for any redness anywhere. It is weird.

Talishan
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Post   » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:32 pm


A less knowledgeable and experienced owner than you, I would suggest a vet trip. You however know what you're doing. Keep an eye out. Sniff her mouth from time to time; if any infection or abscess develops, you should be able to smell it.

Hopefully it's just a one-off weirdness. I cut my mouth on corn chips too, so yeah. ;-)

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Zaphy

Post   » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:00 pm


I wanted to put a note here for my own benefit that Violet's started having some weird potential respiratory symptoms. It's very subtle so I'm not immediately concerned, but I wanted to make note of it here since I already forgot exactly when I noticed it- sometime in the last few days. Hasn't seemed to worsen since I noticed it but I will keep an eye (or ear) on it and probably make an appointment and mention it to the vet, since she'll be due for a checkup soon anyway.

Her lungs sound clear when I listen to them but her breathing sounds a little junky every now and then- whenever I do hear it, she's either eating or sleeping. I wouldn't call it a full blown hoot, more of a small grunt. No discharge, no other symptoms.

With her surgery drama earlier I honestly kind of suspect heart problems rather than the beginnings of a URI... but I suppose time will tell. Might make the vet take radiographs anyway even if he doesn't think it likely, just to be sure.

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Zaphy

Post   » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:50 pm


Might as well put this on Violet's medical thread instead of Adelaide's now. Violet suffered a fall on the 19th and appeared to be okay immediately following, but has started to seem to have trouble eating starting last night. Her front teeth look fine, and she is still ingesting hay and pellets (treats too of course), but she's going a little slower and sometimes works her jaw and paws at her mouth as if something's stuck. I brought Violet to the vet today as a companion for her sister who had the actual appointment, and noticed her doing it again while her sister was being examined. I asked the vet how serious she would consider the behavior, and the vet said to email her a video if I saw Violet doing it again.

Trying to read up on broken teeth it seems like all the information is for a broken front tooth- is advice for a broken molar the same as for a broken front tooth, i.e. it's probably not an issue if the pig is still able to eat, and it should resolve itself? Of course, it's not like I can tell how bad the issue is if there is one... if the jaw itself were injured, that would probably be more serious and something we'd want to tackle sooner rather than later for fear of tooth overgrowth. And if a tooth is broken that has the potential for injury and infection, and I've been down the abscess road with Violet before with no desire to go down it again.

*Sometimes* she seems to be eating normally... so maybe I'm imagining things, or just letting my anxiety get the best of me. I hate how hard it is to tell sometimes.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:45 pm


Crossing fingers this resolves!

MarlowePieper11

Post   » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:54 pm


How long did you fast him? My pig has surgery on Monday and the vet said to fast 12 hours which doesn't seem right.

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Zaphy

Post   » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:14 pm


@MarlowePieper- Sorry this is a bit (lot) late! I assume you're talking about back when Violet had her abscess surgery and the tech told me to fast her for 12 hours beforehand. I withheld food/drink from her for a couple hours beforehand with the thought that it would make things a middle ground... But something that occured to me years after the fact is that since they always grab poops right from their bottoms to eat, you really can't stop them from eating completely anyway so I can't say there's any point in fasting them :)

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Zaphy

Post   » Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:43 pm


Been going back and forth on whether to post about Violet. She's been looking... sad the last several days. I keep finding her hunched and poofed in the cage, and looking much like a dying pig. But then when I take her out of the cage to look at her more closely, she perks up again. She doesn't look like that every time I see her, but it's been more than just once or twice recently. I had her in to the vet a week or two ago to take a look at her and given her age (a couple months shy of 6 years), we decided to try her on some pain meds to see if she would perk up a bit. And I think, or maybe thought, that they helped. But she's had her dose today and I found her looking pained again (same deal, perked up upon being picked up, did tricks for lettuce, jumped up onto my shoulder without assistance). I'm certain that she has SOMETHING going on- I chose not to spay her a few years back after that failed attempt when we found cysts, so I kind of assume she's got ovarian cysts and/or cancer. She'd been acting very hormonal for several weeks prior to this bout of discomfort as well. She no longer is, for whatever that's worth. She's had a slight weight loss over the last few months, but not more than I'd expect for an elderly pig anyway.

Also, we did just lose her (probably) littermate, Adelaide. Adelaide was the alpha of the herd as well, so it's a significant loss. So it's also possible that she's depressed at Adelaide's loss and/or that since they were tied together in my mind, that I'm just projecting greater pain onto her than she's actually experiencing.

Anyway. I'm just kind of at a loss as to what to do for her now. I'm not sure if there's more I *can* do? Maybe syringe feed her for a bit? No clue if that would do anything at all. And I'm not sure where to draw the line of if she's enjoying life anymore. It doesn't help that I have a newly mobile human baby so I'm not able to observe the pigs as often as I used to and therefore don't have a great picture of her overall status either. Just... Confused and worried about her. I guess I just don't really have a great idea of what a pig's twilight years *should* look like. I know not to expect that she'll be able to jump around like a little piglet anymore, I guess it just comes down to how much pain is too much pain?

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Post   » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:37 pm


I am sorry to hear she may be having problems and very much sympathize with trying to sort things out while dealing with a "newly mobile human baby".

Looking hunched and poofed does sound like she is experiencing some pain. It is hard to sort out illness vs. possible grieving. I think of you as an observant caretaker who knows their pet well. I don't know that I can give an useful advice but hope you can sort out her issues.

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Post   » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:31 pm


Is Violet alone now without Adelaide? That's a big change when they're older and they lose a littermate. It's hard to tell if it's a pain situation since she moves around more when you're there. I would try rearranging the cage so things are in different places. That might provide some mental stimulation so she has to investigate. And maybe scatter some pellets and favorite veggies so she forages in search of food. Then you can see how she moves and whether she's eating okay. Something comforting, like a fleece tunnel that's warm to snuggle in might help. I have a single pig and she has a little stuffed bunny that she snuggles by quite often. I hope you can figure out what's going on. You have your hands full with a mobile human baby and aging piggie!

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Zaphy

Post   » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:20 pm


Thanks for the responses. I did try rearranging things and it might have helped some- not sure. The local pig rescue also happened to post up a photo of a pink eyed white they had up for adoption- Adelaide was a pink eyed white, and I couldn't pass her up. So the last few days I've been trying to introduce that one and her friend to my herd, and Violet is NOT having it. However, despite how much she appears to hate the new more dominant pig, she also seems to be doing much better. Looks more comfortable, more active. I wonder if she actually is doing better or if she just doesn't want to admit to her pain in front of her new enemy... Unfortunately the two new pigs are going to be going back to the rescue, I've tried a few times and introductions just aren't working out with the new problem pig. But I do think I'll continue to try to find a new member for the herd- hopefully we can find someone who piques Violet's interest but doesn't bite everyone's butts xD there are a couple other pigs at the rescue that might work out, so we'll see. I'll be observing Violet closely after the two new ladies go back today to see if she wilts again (she is not alone, but the herd is significantly smaller than it was at the beginning of the year).

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