Emma's Medical Thread

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Bookfan
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Post   » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:22 pm


Emma lost a bit of weight & was having obvious eating problems over the last 3 days. Vet today - they're going to put her under & look at her teeth tomorrow. Do some pigs do well after filing? When daughter searched for malocclusion all she found was bad outcomes. How about elongated roots? Gracie died because she had elongated roots & the vet said he couldn't do anything about them.

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Post   » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:25 pm


The only treatment for elongated roots is repeated planing of the molars. And pigs can only stand so many administrations of anesthesia, so the prognosis isn't good.

But how well the pig does depends on why the teeth needed to be filed in the first place. A temporary condition, such as an overgrowth of the molars because the pig hasn't had proper food, can be completely cleared up by planing.

Bookfan
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Post   » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:12 am


Thanks bpatters. Apparently the vet said the prognosis was poor.

She's only 3 and has nothing else wrong with her. It'll be a shame to lose her so soon.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:08 am


I think the skill of the vet regarding dental procedures has a lot to do with its success.

"And pigs can only stand so many administrations of anesthesia..."
I am guessing risks to the administration of anesthesia have a great deal to do with overall health and heart health, along with the skill of the vet in administering and monitoring the anesthesia. I do not recall losing guinea pigs during dental procedures by an experienced vet unless they are medically compromised.

I would not give up yet! Do get an xray to help evaluate what is going on - and maybe a second opinion.

I believe with elongated roots, the goal is to over-plane the molars to take some of the pressure off the teeth so they are not pushed into the bone as much. Pinta could elaborate.
http://www.guinealynx.info/elongated_roots.html

Bookfan
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Post   » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:39 pm


Good news. The vet just called & things went well. Her molars were a little overgrown & her tongue was a bit entrapped. So he planed her teeth. Said there were no diseased teeth & we'll watch her for any more problems. And keep our fingers crossed. He didn't think an xray at this point would yield any useful information.

I did look at the vet suggestions here & there is a another vet in StL who is listed. The person who posted it went to him for a pig with teeth probs & sang his praises. He's still there, so if at some point we want a 2nd opinion, that's where we'll go. We've had uniformly good treatment with our current vets. The vet who worked on Emma today has been practicing since 1991 and is the chief of staff. Most or all of the vets are cavy savy.

Bookfan
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Post   » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:44 pm


Wrong thread, but I'm just going to post this here:


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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:30 pm


I just added this song to a playlist a week or two ago. Sting's version too.

It is a poignant song.

I hope Emma responds well to the dental work today! I am glad you have an experienced vet.

Bookfan
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Post   » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:51 pm


Emma was accepting cc & pooping earlier. Now she won't chew what's in her mouth and has stopped pooping. What to do.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:10 am


Did the vet send any pain meds for her? She must be uncomfortable if she's not chewing, maybe a sore spot somewhere. If you make the CC more watery, do you think she might try taking it? She wouldn't have to chew so much.

Bookfan
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Post   » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:12 am


She was given painkiller before she left the vet. We ended up taking her to the emergence vet (which will no longer treat gp's & I don't think there are others that will see pigs in the metro area). They said her temp was too low & she needed reglan, but they didn't want to give the reglan until they'd warmed her up (with fluids). And at some point she needed more CC. They said both the buprenorphine and the anesthetic could cause the temp. problem. We left her there overnight, but she died at 2:30am.

Thank you all for your support.

bpatters
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Post   » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:32 am


I'm so sorry, Bookfan.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:21 pm


Oh, no! I am so sorry you lost her. I did not expect her to take a turn for the worse. You have all my sympathy.

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mmeadow
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Post   » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:54 pm


I'm so sorry.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:01 am


I’m so sorry Bookfan, you have my sympathy.

Bookfan
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Post   » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:21 pm


Thanks all.

We've already adopted a new pig. Daughter felt sort of guilty like we're disrespecting Emma. But we're just giving a pig a home - it doesn't change how we felt about Emma. It softens the loss a bit to take a new pig in to focus on.

New pig doesn't have a name yet. We found her on pet finder. The pig my daughter really wanted was at HSMO but is on pregnancy watch. New girl is from some organization that rescues old dogs. The owner (foster more likely) just gave email & met my daughter for the switch off (we gave a donation which was requested).

It's pretty obvious the owner doesn't know much about pigs - gave her water in a dish. Daughter got no history - now I'm worrying about possible pregnancy. There's no reason to think she is, but who knows what her history is. Gah!

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:29 pm


I hope all goes well with your new guinea pig. I am sure Emma would approve.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:04 am


I'm so glad a little homeless guinea pig is getting a good home with you, Bookfan. I completely understand how another pet will help ease the loss of Emma. That's how I ended up getting Lacey - we lost our sweet old dog who was my little shadow and the house was just too empty. I was looking at available dogs at the humane society, and took a walk through the small animal room. Lacey, who was named Snow White at the time, came out to sniff and see who I was. The next day I was there when they opened and I adopted her.

You'll have to post pictures of the newbie - how exciting!

Bookfan
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Post   » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:09 am


Snow White! *chuckle*

"The next day I was there when they opened" Been there, done that. That's when you know you're really hooked. But then, we've been really hooked on all our piggies.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:03 am


I had to change her name from Snow White - she had two babies in foster care. I thought of Mae West when she said, “I used to be Snow White, but I drifted!”

Yes, I was hooked from the beginning.

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