Warren to Run in 2020?

[Sef]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/elizabeth-warren-exploratory-committee-2020/index.html

[bpatters]

I love her, but she's too old.

[Bookfan]

How old? I think she's just adorable, especially when she socks it to Republicans in the Senate (are you listening Mitch the-turtle McConnell). She is a real firebrand. But she's a wee bit too liberal for me. More to the point, I think we'll need a Dem who's somewhat more centrist to pull off this next election. I'm thinking simply strategy (of course there are many, many who are more in the know about this). Bottom line, I want whoever can win.

As women go, I like what I've seen of Amy Klobuchar. She was on Rachel Maddow's show. I'm not sure of where she stands on things, but I think a bit more to the center than Warren. Great personality & handled herself so well with that pig Kavanaugh.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/klobuchar-still-co ... 391168579784

Sorry. Am I being too harsh?

[bpatters]

She's 69.

[Lynx]

I really like her too! I think Bernie is too old but not Elizabeth Warren. I do think she needs to work on her speaking voice to be the absolute best communicator possible. She is definitely progressive enough.

[Sef]

I adore Senator Warren, but I don't want to see her run for President. Trump will drag her through the mud, will keep pounding the non-issue of her ancestry or other stupidity, and will portray her too far left and anti-business. She'll come across as a b**ch in the debates, and voters will think they're getting another Hillary. It won't end well.

Pretty good commentary here:
https://journalstar.com/opinion/columnists/ann-mcfeatters-sa ... b8239ee.html

[lisam]

I don't think she's too old. I also don't think we need someone more centrist. I think we need to go all the way with our socialist ideals. Only call them progressive ideas instead, because people still think socialists are a bad thing.

[Lynx]

I like the word progressive. It has a long, good history. It's pretty much what I consider myself.

I do think she could win. It may be that trump is not the republican candidate and that he has finally been dealt with. I still think she could win. Her message is the right one. She can certainly stand up to trump.

And maybe she will grab some of the fun and craziness of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in her response to the college dance video (to post her own congressional woman mini-dance video).

Here's a fun takedown by Anderson Cooper:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/01/05/ridiculist-al ... c360-vpx.cnn

[Sef]

Ocasio-Cortez is on 60 Minutes this evening, by the way.

[Lynx]

I missed her but maybe there'll be something online later.

[Sef]

She did a very good job. I know she's young and idealistic, but I love her energy and think she could do amazing things.

[Bookfan]

I heard Eliz. Warren on Ari Melber - MSNBC. I was very impressed. She has great ideas & command of the facts.

[bpatters]

I really like her, but I don't think she has a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

[Sef]

Agree.

[Bookfan]

So, who do you guys think would be a strong candidate? I just don't know.

[bpatters]

I'm not ready to make up my mind yet. I can more easily rule out the ones I don't want -- Biden, Gabbard, Beto, Castro, Booker, Delaney, Williamson, Yang, Buttigieg.

[Lynx]

I think there is going to be a quashing of her candidacy by the media - either shiny object thinking and ignoring of her - or subterfuge by the money behind media. I think she would do a stellar job as pres.

Biden would not be my choice (though he seems a great guy).

[Sef]

What about Gavin Newsom?

[bpatters]

He's just barely been elected governor of California.

[Sef]

He is, but I think he could have a lot of potential down the road.

Biden would definitely not be my choice, although I do like him. My husband really likes Cory Booker, but I don't know that much about him. Not sure how I feel about Gillibrand or Klobuchar, either.

Can anyone actually beat Trump?