Abbey's Medical Thread
- Delaine
- Supporter in '14
Abbey is a 2 year old sow and has been having blood on and off in her urine since last August.
She is active, eats very well and her weight is good and has stayed steady. I have only seen her seem uncomfortable once while urinating. Stools are normal.
Last August I had her examined, an X-ray taken and a urinalysis done. There was no signs of stones or any other disease on the X-ray and the urinalysis was totally normal with no bacteria or blood showing.
I have noticed on occasion dark rings around her dried urine and at times I wondered if the urine had a pink tinge to it. I have seen some red blood a couple of time but it clears up within a day. Throughout all of this she has shown no signs of illness.
Last month she had more blood in her urine so I took her back to the vet. She suggested an ultrasound.
I had another urinalysis done last week and it showed blood but again no bacteria, infection or signs of calcium crystals. pH was normal.
I am baffled. The vet thinks maybe it could be a tumor of the uterus, but after 9 months I would think things would have progressed if any tumors were present.
I am very frustrated so have booked an ultrasound for next Friday.
They said they will do it without sedation so thank goodness I don't have to fast her.
I really could use some advice on ultrasounds and long vet visits. How stressful will this be for her? I know it is stressful for me. Usually I take her sister along for the trip for support but I have to leave Abbey for about 1 1/2 hours so is that fair for Zoe? I have never separated them before and really don't know if it would be best to leave Zoe at home or take her along.
The vet is 45 minutes away so add another 1 1/2 hours of travel time to the visit. I will have to wait there. It is too far to come home and go back.
I want to minimize the stress on both girls and handle it in the best way possible.
Any suggestions?
She is active, eats very well and her weight is good and has stayed steady. I have only seen her seem uncomfortable once while urinating. Stools are normal.
Last August I had her examined, an X-ray taken and a urinalysis done. There was no signs of stones or any other disease on the X-ray and the urinalysis was totally normal with no bacteria or blood showing.
I have noticed on occasion dark rings around her dried urine and at times I wondered if the urine had a pink tinge to it. I have seen some red blood a couple of time but it clears up within a day. Throughout all of this she has shown no signs of illness.
Last month she had more blood in her urine so I took her back to the vet. She suggested an ultrasound.
I had another urinalysis done last week and it showed blood but again no bacteria, infection or signs of calcium crystals. pH was normal.
I am baffled. The vet thinks maybe it could be a tumor of the uterus, but after 9 months I would think things would have progressed if any tumors were present.
I am very frustrated so have booked an ultrasound for next Friday.
They said they will do it without sedation so thank goodness I don't have to fast her.
I really could use some advice on ultrasounds and long vet visits. How stressful will this be for her? I know it is stressful for me. Usually I take her sister along for the trip for support but I have to leave Abbey for about 1 1/2 hours so is that fair for Zoe? I have never separated them before and really don't know if it would be best to leave Zoe at home or take her along.
The vet is 45 minutes away so add another 1 1/2 hours of travel time to the visit. I will have to wait there. It is too far to come home and go back.
I want to minimize the stress on both girls and handle it in the best way possible.
Any suggestions?
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I'd take the other pig. I always take both of mine -- it's the only time they'll snuggle together.
And you shouldn't have to fast a pig before a medical procedure. Fasting is to prevent aspiration pneumonia when someone throws up and inhales it into their lungs. Since guinea pigs don't vomit, it's not a problem. In fact, fasting them can cause GI problems after the surgery, because there's nothing in their gut moving through.
And you shouldn't have to fast a pig before a medical procedure. Fasting is to prevent aspiration pneumonia when someone throws up and inhales it into their lungs. Since guinea pigs don't vomit, it's not a problem. In fact, fasting them can cause GI problems after the surgery, because there's nothing in their gut moving through.
- Delaine
- Supporter in '14
Thanks bpatter:
At first the vet said Abbey would have to fast for 4 hours and be sedated for the ultrasound so I was not going to go through with the procedure.
I had heard that guinea pigs don't vomit and was really concerned about the effects of sedation and GI problems from the fasting so thank you for confirming my fears. Now they say they will do it without sedation.
Thanks for helping me decide about taking Zoe along for support. Like your pigs mine only cuddle when they are really nervous.
Does anyone know how long it actually takes for the ultrasound? They want me to leave her for 1 1/2 hours. That seems long. I don't want to leave her sister alone in the cage at the vet office if Abbey will be having procedures done for that long. I would prefer to take her with me. I have a friend I can visit.
I know they have to shave her tummy first.
At first the vet said Abbey would have to fast for 4 hours and be sedated for the ultrasound so I was not going to go through with the procedure.
I had heard that guinea pigs don't vomit and was really concerned about the effects of sedation and GI problems from the fasting so thank you for confirming my fears. Now they say they will do it without sedation.
Thanks for helping me decide about taking Zoe along for support. Like your pigs mine only cuddle when they are really nervous.
Does anyone know how long it actually takes for the ultrasound? They want me to leave her for 1 1/2 hours. That seems long. I don't want to leave her sister alone in the cage at the vet office if Abbey will be having procedures done for that long. I would prefer to take her with me. I have a friend I can visit.
I know they have to shave her tummy first.
- Lynx
- Celebrate!!!
A spay would take care of any cause related to reproductive issues (if you have a skilled and experienced vet - all surgery carries risk). Can you describe in detail how often and how much blood you see?
There is a slim possibility it could be related to her cycle - though this would be unusual for a guinea pig.
There is a slim possibility it could be related to her cycle - though this would be unusual for a guinea pig.
- Delaine
- Supporter in '14
Lynx:
Abbey has had blood show up either on her fleece, hay or in her urine about nine times since August 2012.
It could be a blob or streak but usually I notice it as a blood in the urine. I stalk her and dab her urine with paper towel as soon as she pees.
I have also noticed dark rings around the urine in their tray and pinkish urine. I have white paper towel under the fabric and hay so it really show up. I wasn't sure if this was blood or oxidation.
I just bought some chemstrip 5 urinalysis strips to test her urine because even though the urine looks clear it could still have blood in it. I tested her urine yesterday which looked clear but sure enough it tested for blood.
The episodes sometimes happen when she is in heat but not always.
I have always suspected it may be due to irritation from urine sludge but I will have to wait for the ultrasound to hopefully get some answers.
Abbey has had blood show up either on her fleece, hay or in her urine about nine times since August 2012.
It could be a blob or streak but usually I notice it as a blood in the urine. I stalk her and dab her urine with paper towel as soon as she pees.
I have also noticed dark rings around the urine in their tray and pinkish urine. I have white paper towel under the fabric and hay so it really show up. I wasn't sure if this was blood or oxidation.
I just bought some chemstrip 5 urinalysis strips to test her urine because even though the urine looks clear it could still have blood in it. I tested her urine yesterday which looked clear but sure enough it tested for blood.
The episodes sometimes happen when she is in heat but not always.
I have always suspected it may be due to irritation from urine sludge but I will have to wait for the ultrasound to hopefully get some answers.
- LS in AK
- Upside-down & Backwards
I would definitely take Zoe along and leave her at the vet with Abbey. Maybe pack along some hay + small water bottle on the side, if possible?
An ultrasound should not take more than 10-15 minutes. The vet should not have to shave Abbey's belly, either. Whenever my sows have gone in for an ultrasound, the vet just takes care of it during the appointment, and they rub some alcohol gel on their tummies (not sure why...) But, a different piece of equipment may require a different protocol? I would ask more about it when dropping the pigs off. Seems an ultrasound should not be that complicated.
I had a piggy develop similar symptoms of occasional blood spotting at 3.5 yo, but she also had pain symptoms. These symptoms preceded development of a uterine tumor, which appeared 2 years later.
Hope you can find some answers.
An ultrasound should not take more than 10-15 minutes. The vet should not have to shave Abbey's belly, either. Whenever my sows have gone in for an ultrasound, the vet just takes care of it during the appointment, and they rub some alcohol gel on their tummies (not sure why...) But, a different piece of equipment may require a different protocol? I would ask more about it when dropping the pigs off. Seems an ultrasound should not be that complicated.
I had a piggy develop similar symptoms of occasional blood spotting at 3.5 yo, but she also had pain symptoms. These symptoms preceded development of a uterine tumor, which appeared 2 years later.
Hope you can find some answers.
- Delaine
- Supporter in '14
Thanks LS for the information.
I will ask more questions when I take her in and I will leave Zoe at the vet's office so she can support Abbey.
I have already called the vet's office several times. I keep thinking of one more thing to ask. They are very nice about it but are probably rolling their eyes every time I call.
If anyone else has had a sow with blood in her urine I would appreciate hearing about your experience.
I will ask more questions when I take her in and I will leave Zoe at the vet's office so she can support Abbey.
I have already called the vet's office several times. I keep thinking of one more thing to ask. They are very nice about it but are probably rolling their eyes every time I call.
If anyone else has had a sow with blood in her urine I would appreciate hearing about your experience.
- Delaine
- Supporter in '14
I have tested Abbey's urine four days in a row. Two days tested positive for blood and two days were clear.
I did notice it tested positive for protein in her urine. I am not sure if these test strips are accurate for guinea pigs but if they are does anyone know what protein in the urine means?
I did notice it tested positive for protein in her urine. I am not sure if these test strips are accurate for guinea pigs but if they are does anyone know what protein in the urine means?
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I don't know about guinea pigs, but in humans, elevated protein in the urine can be caused by a whole host of things -- from something as minor as emotional stress or exercise, as a side-effect of some drugs, pregnancy or by diseases as diverse as diabetes, hodgkin's lymphoma, kidney diseases, rheumatoid arthritis and about a dozen others. I'm sure it would take a whole battery of tests to decide what the cause is.
- Delaine
- Supporter in '14
Thanks bpatters:
I go to the vet for the ultrasound on Friday so I will ask her. Because of the blood in the urine I was wondering if it has something to do with her kidneys.
One vet I talked to (not her usual vet) said blood could indicate kidney issues but thought after 9 months she would be showing signs of illness.
She is her usual cheeky self. She seems extra lively lately and the only thing I have done differently is add a probiotic to her diet.
I had great success with probiotics last year when Zoe was getting bouts of loose stool with blood. She has been having normal stools since last September when I started her on a very small dose of Kyo-Dophilus.
I have read many articles on how probiotics can be helpful for bladder infections, yeast infections, of course bowel problems and my daughter's fiance (a Doctor) said they are now giving them to infants for colic.
I go to the vet for the ultrasound on Friday so I will ask her. Because of the blood in the urine I was wondering if it has something to do with her kidneys.
One vet I talked to (not her usual vet) said blood could indicate kidney issues but thought after 9 months she would be showing signs of illness.
She is her usual cheeky self. She seems extra lively lately and the only thing I have done differently is add a probiotic to her diet.
I had great success with probiotics last year when Zoe was getting bouts of loose stool with blood. She has been having normal stools since last September when I started her on a very small dose of Kyo-Dophilus.
I have read many articles on how probiotics can be helpful for bladder infections, yeast infections, of course bowel problems and my daughter's fiance (a Doctor) said they are now giving them to infants for colic.