Anyone Ordered from KMS Lately?

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Sef
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Post   » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:14 pm


And have you checked Amazon.com? They carry KMS. Maybe they still have some in inventory.

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:07 am


Yes, I did did contact KMS, but I haven't heard back from them yet. Hugo has enough pellets left to last about another week, so I will need to figure something out.

Thanks for the tip, Sef! I will check it out.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:25 am


Do you have a rescue nearby that uses them? Or are there any nearby guinea pig lovers/owners who use them you know?

It is hard to switch brands!

bpatters
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:03 am


Apparently the weather did a number on the northwest growing season. Wheat farmers, in particular, were hard hit by heavy late snows and cold weather, and were weeks late planting. Recent rains have affected the harvest. Maybe that also applies to hay in the area.

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:03 am


I heard back from KMS this morning. They were told that their pellets would be delivered by tonight; fingers crossed. Honestly, I don't know if Hugo would even eat different pellets! Good idea about checking with rescues and friends, Lynx! If their pellets are not delivered in time, I may do that.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:29 am


Oh, you could get your friends to order from KMS too so it would be more likely they might have spare pellets in a pinch ;-)

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:32 pm


I have actually done that, Lynx! haha! It was a long time ago though, so I should check to see if she is still using them. KMS just got their timothy pellets back in stock and I was able to order them for Hugo.

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Sef
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:43 pm


Great! I have been thinking of switching back to KMS after having my guys on Oxbow for the past year. Are the larger pellets a problem for Hugo? I bought a bag of KMS alfalfa pellets when we adopted a baby not too long ago, and he wouldn't touch them. The pellets were enormous.

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:52 pm


I haven't noticed them being larger, but they are not as crumbly as they were in the past.  Even so, Hugo has no trouble eating them with his "old man" teeth!

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Sef
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:02 pm


Have you ever fed Oxbow pellets? They are twice the size of those, or at least the alfalfa pellets were. I assume they're all cut the same. I'm still going to order a bag and see. If nothing else, I can hang onto it and send you some if you ever run out again. ;)

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:52 pm


Yes, I used Oxbow "Cavy Cuisine" for many years and then their organic pellets when they first came out with them.  My guys were getting lots of bladder stones, so I switched to KMS about a decade ago and have been using them since.  I use the timothy pellets, so maybe the alfalfa pellets are the large ones?  I haven't used alfalfa pellets for almost six years.  Good luck getting your guys to eat the KMS!

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Sef
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Post   » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:46 pm


Thanks. Ordered a smaller bag, just to see. I was glad when Oxbow changed its formula a couple of years or so ago, but it's still fairly high in calcium. After a devastating issue with stones again after several years if everybody being stone-free, I want to reduce calcium as much as I possibly can.

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Sef
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Post   » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:05 pm


Well, the KMS pellets finally arrived. The pellet size seems to vary, with large and small bits combined, but on average slightly smaller than their alfalfa pellets but quite a bit larger than Oxbow. For comparison purposes (and apologies for low lighting):

KMS alfalfa pellets on the left; KMS timothy pellets on the right -
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KMS timothy on the left; Oxbow Essentials adult pellets on the right -
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Oxbow Essentials adult pellets on the left and Oxbow Garden Select on the right:
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Kelsie

Post   » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:38 pm


@Sef. Thank you so much for posting those pictures. I've been feeding Oxbow Essentials for a while because my pigs just seemed to get tired of the KMS pellets. I was thinking of switching back because of the lower calcium in the KMS. I've been seeing posts from others who have stated that the KMS pellets have gotten larger than when Linda ran the business. After viewing your pictures I can see exactly what they are talking about.

I'm not sure that my pigs would even eat the larger pellets. I know I could break them in half but that is a lot of work. I'm still undecided but for now I'll stick to the Oxbow brand.

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Sef
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Post   » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:12 am


I was a little worried about the size, too, but I'm happy to report that all of our guys (including the youngster) ate their KMS pellets last night and are wolfing them down again this morning. The pellets aren't hard, and can be easily broken apart. I mixed roughly 50/50 with their Oxbow Essentials and think I'll continue to do this to help reduce overall calcium in their diets. Because it took so long to get the KMS, I'm a little reluctant to switch over to it completely.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:23 am


I hope they help!

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Sef
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Post   » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:37 pm


Odd. Got a new bag of KMS a couple of weeks ago, and all of our guys were fine with it until the past couple of days. All four pigs are just picking at it, now. Is anybody else having this issue?

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Sef
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Post   » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:04 am


It's just weird. This morning, two of our guys won't touch the KMS at all; the other two are just picking at it. I replaced the KMS with Oxbow and the two who wouldn't touch their pellets are wolfing down Oxbow. Bad batch, maybe? It looks the same as always.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:03 am


Give it a sniff to see if it seems rancid. I am guessing among the various ingredients, those with more oils are more vulnerable.

Rancidity is something I am sensitive to in human foods. Some oils hold up well, others seem to go bad around their expiration date or even earlier.

Other than that, they may just have had an off day.

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Tofu

Post   » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:53 am


I just received a bag dated 1/22/2020 on Saturday and my pigs seem to be wolfing it down, as they usually do. I did not examine the pellets particularly carefully but they seemed to be the same quality that I usually receive from them, albeit it took longer to get to me this time.

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