Timothy Hay suggestions?

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sef1268
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Post   » Wed May 15, 2019 11:39 pm


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samim21

Post   » Thu May 16, 2019 10:54 am


Late to the party but-

Sef, if you are interested, Rabbit hole has been really great for me. I used to get oxbow on the reg (and occasionally kaytee or generic brands when I ran out) and I always ended up with lots of brown hay at the end of the day that my pigs had no interest in. So far, I've been going through a 5 lb bag of second cut timothy hay from rabbit hole about every three weeks. I'm probably a little more wasteful with the hay than I need to be, though, so it could probably last a month if you are more careful. It's always pretty green and has a variety of textures. Also has the seed heads, which my girls really like :). I think it costs about $27 for me to get it on autoship (I was definitely spending more on oxbow before...), though I bet there are some online coupons that will get the price down. They have a 1 lb bag available to try it out (which is what I did in the beginning).

It's a lot cheaper through chewy than getting hay shipped directly from a farm website (at least in my region) and it's great quality so far!

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sef1268
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Post   » Thu May 16, 2019 9:53 pm


Good to know! I'll have to check out Chewy.com. Didn't realize there was such a price difference between Chewy.com and Amazon.com, at least on some of the products. 5 lbs. of 2nd cutting Rabbit Hole on Amazon is $34. On Chewy, it's $21.05. Free shipping on both, since I have Amazon Prime. 15 oz. bag of Oxbow oat hay is around $11 on Amazon; $4.39 on Chewy.

Thanks for the tip!

ETA: Actually, Chewy.com is charging me $4.95 flat-rate shipping. Is that what you paid?

TheCageCleaner

Post   » Fri May 17, 2019 11:43 am


Chewy is free shipping over $50 or $75 so buy in bulk.

SSLee

Post   » Fri May 17, 2019 12:40 pm


Chewy.com has wonderful customer service also and I've found many times that their prices are lower than Amazon's. The only drawback is that you have to buy over $49 for free shipping. After reading this thread earlier in the week, I ended up buying the 15 ounce bags of meadow, oat, and botanical hay, an assortment of Oxbow supplements plus the Funkitty Egg-Cersizer Itsazoo suggested in this thread, to make it over $49. I used to buy Carefresh from Chewy.com so it was easy to get free shipping but harder now that I've switched to fleece for the pigs.

GuineaPigmom

Post   » Fri May 17, 2019 4:54 pm


Mom of guinea pigs x 8 years...Oxbow Timonthy hay for adults or bust!

daj

Post   » Sat May 18, 2019 1:27 pm


Just an FYI... I recently purchased a 3-wire bale of Timothy/Orchard mix hay from a local feed store. It must weigh at least 80 lbs., and it was only $30. I baged it and it filled more than 4 giant plastic bags. It seems to be great quality, and the pigs love it. I'm terrible at math, but I think that comes to less than $0.40/lb. I had also just bought a 2lb. box of bluegrass hay from KMS to try it. It cost me $10/lb. That's including shipping, but still, buying small quantities is SOOOOO expensive compared to a feed store, if you have access to one. I also don't like the non-recyclable packaging that Oxbow bagged hay comes in, although the 50lb. boxes don't have that issue (and it's just a little over $1/lb.

Also, is bermudagrass hay suitable for piggies? It looks comparable to timothy of the hay chart, but than oat hay doesn't look bad to me, at least by the chart???

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sef1268
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Post   » Sat May 18, 2019 2:46 pm


Bermuda grass is okay to feed. None of ours have ever really gone for it, though.

bpatters
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Post   » Sat May 18, 2019 2:57 pm


Bermuda is a lower quality hay than timothy, but it does work for pigs.

We've long recommended buying bales from local farmers if you can find one. Even if you wind up throwing most of it away, it's still far cheaper than any other method. Unfortunately, timothy tends to grow in the northern tier of US states, so that leaves a lot of people with no access to good local bales.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat May 18, 2019 9:40 pm


Do read over www.guinealynx.info/hay.html

Making sure your hay is bone dry before you bag it in plastic bags is extremely important. The presence of moisture in the bag can allow molds to grow.

daj

Post   » Sat May 18, 2019 10:33 pm


Great info. Thanks all!

bpatters
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Post   » Sat May 18, 2019 10:35 pm


And if you put it in plastic bags, poke holes all in the bags so the air can circulate.

samim21

Post   » Mon May 20, 2019 10:36 am


Sef-

Yeah, I think I paid around $5 for shipping. But they are prompt with delivery and I like getting it on autoship, so I don't really mind.

SSLee

Post   » Mon May 20, 2019 7:54 pm


Has anyone tried GuineaDad's hay? That hay seems to be very popular as it has been continuously sold out. The design of the box is great as you just clip the entire box onto the grids and don't need to provide a separate hay box.

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Wed May 22, 2019 12:40 am


I took a trip to southern Illinois for my granddaughter's graduation and found a feed store called Rural King that sells 50 lb bales of timothy hay. I looked it over carefully and it is pretty pure. Being in a smaller bale, it looks like pretty close to second cut, which is perfect for my boys. I'll be leaving here at the end of the week with at least 4 bales of it wrapped tightly under a heavy duty tarp for the trip home.

TheCageCleaner

Post   » Wed May 22, 2019 7:30 am


GuineaDad is pretty misleading with the hay sizes. They only sell in a 3-pack with '9 pounds' listed on the site, which made me think each box was 9lb. $30 for 27lbs of hay is pretty dang good. But it's not that much--it's 9lbs *total*. $30 for 9lb is insane. I love the thoughtful touches with the box but overcharging that much for hay is bound to cause underfeeding if people can't afford those prices.

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sef1268
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Post   » Wed May 22, 2019 7:38 pm


5 lb. box of Rabbit Hole timothy from Chewy arrived yesterday. It's okay; I was hoping for green and fragrant, but it's just so-so. The boys seem to like it well enough, but they're not picky eaters when it comes to hay. I also bought a bag of Kaytee orchard grass out of curiosity (it's surprisingly green and fresh looking) and a bag of Oxbow oat hay. Overall, no complaints. I may well order from Chewy.com again, but will make sure the order is enough to get the free shipping next time.

SSLee

Post   » Thu May 23, 2019 8:07 pm


TheCageCleaner, GuineaDad's pricing is pretty comparable to both KMS Hayloft and Small Pet Select....just not sure if the hay is as good. For comparison, I looked at 2nd cut timothy hay on all three sites.

KMS - 10 pounds for $36.95 (shipping included)
Small Pet Select - 10 pounds at $29.99 + 4.95 shipping totals $34.95
GuineaDad - 9 pounds at $34.95 (shipping included)

Both KMS and SPS have a rewards program.

The GuineaDad hay reviews include pictures of the really really green hay. My last box of KMS is OK but I am still on the search for really green hay. If I'm ever able to find GuineaDad hay available, I will give that a try. At the very least, I can reuse the clip on boxes for other hays.

The 15 ounce bags of Oxbow meadow, oat, and botanical hay from Chewy.com have all arrived and I'm excited for my girls to try them.

bpatters
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Post   » Thu May 23, 2019 8:53 pm


If you're looking for really green hay, try American Pet Diner. I've never seen any that wasn't really fresh and green.

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sef1268
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Post   » Thu May 23, 2019 8:57 pm


I really should look at APD again. I used to order their so-called "Gold" timothy which, if memory serves, was either 3rd cutting or a 2nd/3rd cutting mix. It was almost always very good quality.

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