Benson...sudden aggression

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RyanMarie24

Post   » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:16 pm


So I am pretty sure I already know the reasoning behind this but I wanted to get some thoughts. Over the past 5 days vents and has become an over dominant and very aggressive. Hes always been more dominant but it's getting worse. Benson is almost 2 ..he lives with Spencer who is 3 and Elliot 7 months. It seems Elliott has started puberty they're challenging each other with face offs teeth chattering and chasing each other with a few nips here or there but no bloodshed. The 3 of them live in 2x6 with a 2x2 loft. If you are unfamiliar with my boys I got Elliot from a rescue when Spencer was given weeks to live in September. I want it to be prepared for Elliot to have somebody if Spencer passed away. They did boar dating at the rescue. They have been best friends the past 6 months.

Since they have been having disagreements I had Elliot and Benson in a playpen for 5 hours to try and work things out and kind of rebond. They had the normal dominance behaviors and then settled down for a few hours so I put them back in the cage with Spencer. Everything was fine for a few hours and then Benson flipped Elliot over bit him and then bit Spencer. I think Spencer my have been an innocent bystander. I have Benson separated currently in the loft until I can figure out what to do. I can expand the loft to a 2x3 and rotate Elliott and Benny out of there and with Spencer since he is bonded to both. I could also split the cage down the middle to two 2x3s, but I don't think that is big enough for 2 males. My mom suggested I take Benson to the vet to make sure nothing medical is going on. Should I?

Is all hope lost? Is there any way I can save this bond? There was no bloodshed, but it is breaking my heart to see them act this way. I know Elliot is now in the peak of puberty but I'm hoping we can get past thiis.

Forgot to add...my mom said no more piggies so there goes that idea. I moved home to help take care of her and it's her house...so I respect what she asks.

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:31 pm


You're trying to make three boars get along, and that almost NEVER works. We never recommend it. And rotating them in and out may well wind up with you having three boards, none of which will live with either of the others.

I'd recommend separating them into one pair and a singleton, and if you don't want one to live by himself, you could rehome him.

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Sef
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Post   » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:37 pm


Or just let him live as a next-door neighbor to the pair so that he can still see them and interact. I've done that many times.

RyanMarie24

Post   » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:39 pm


I could never re home any of them. They are my babies. And I can't do side by side as the cage is on my dresser. If I split the cage in half..it would be 2 2x3s..which is not big enough for two males.

Spencer is a Buddha pig. He gets along with everyone.

bpatters
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Post   » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:11 am


Well, you'll have to figure out something, and I'm betting it's not going to be having three males in the same cage.

RyanMarie24

Post   » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:24 am


Thanks for your input 👍🏼

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:48 am


Can you go up with your cage? What does your cage look like? Can you break it up visually a ton so they can't see each other well unless in a particular quadrant? With fringed fleece dividers? How about a second story, smaller, for a singleton? With an ability to see the others from one end?

RyanMarie24

Post   » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:56 pm


Lynx...they are currently in a 2x6 with 2x2 loft. I ordered supplies to change the loft to a 2x3. Their cage does have a bunch of fleece Forrests too.

Since I am working from home. I currently have them on the floor with a divider. Benson will go to the divider today calmly but Elliot will rumblestrut then popcorn...instigating.

I spoke to their vet, who said give them a bit to cool off and to keep an eye on Benson to make sure nothing medical is going on. She said if he's still being aggressive, she see him on Wednesday to check him over.

I hate puberty lol. Elliot keeps looking over at them like he wants to be with them. Breaks my heart.

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Sef
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Post   » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:14 am


I've never had a threesome of males work, no matter how big the cage was. After trying and failing several times, I finally gave up and have always just stuck with bachelors and pairs. Do you have room on the floor for two 2 x 4 cages? Or even two 2 x 3's connected by a divider?

RyanMarie24

Post   » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:52 am


I can split the 2x6 into a divided 2x3s...but would that be big enough for two males? I hate to take away room from them. I have no room on the floor for cages...I would have nowhere to walk in the room. Lol. Plus I have a Jack Russell so I prefer to have the cage off of the ground.

I only have them on my floor in the playpen now because I am working from home, but as of tomorrow...we go back into the office for work.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:06 pm


How about an upper 2X3 and the same lower one that is 2X6, if I remember right.

RyanMarie24

Post   » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:21 pm


In a change of events...my friend showed me a 5 year old at a rescue. He is big and submissive like Spencer. I put an in application to see if Elliot can meet him. Elliot and Spencer get along..so i will see if it is a good match. Fingers crossed!

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Sef
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Post   » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:28 pm


Oh, that would be great!

RyanMarie24

Post   » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm


I have no patience...application submitted lol. Nervous! He's also an abby like Elliot and I would love to give a senior pig a home.

RyanMarie24

Post   » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:47 pm


How can i stack the cables and be able to get into the bottom level. The cage is up on my dresser so its already up high.

RyanMarie24

Post   » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:15 pm


Cages*

bpatters
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Post   » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:36 pm


Make it so that the front side drops down so you can reach into it to clean it. You'll have to take him out to do that so he won't jump, but you can plop him in a laundry basket with some veggies while you're cleaning.

RyanMarie24

Post   » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:17 am


Thank you bpatters! I will see if i can figure out how to do that. I already have a door under the current loft. So I am thinking to make the middle two grids drop down. So i can put a support bar on the corner grids. I'm just paranoid at how it'll hold weight on the upper level. I have zip ties that hold up to 75 lbs.

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:01 pm


A good solid floor if you are separating the cages completely is a wire shelf unit as the ceiling of one and the floor of the other. It won't make you worry that it might buckle. I think you may need two.

RyanMarie24

Post   » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:34 pm


OK so new cage is 2x6 on bottom for Spencer and Benny. Top is a 2x6 divided into 2x3s. The boys have been great with the divider. Unfortunately I tried to introduce them. They were getting along for 5 hours, then Elliot attacked Buddha from behind and had him rolling in a ball. So they can be neighbors with a divider. Breaks my heart though.

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