Regurgitating while force feeding?

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Lynx
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Post   » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:56 pm


Svh is very right about how long it can take to put weight back on.

Guineapun

Post   » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:49 am


She's in the hospital. They took her in & started feedings last night, they think she'll be strong enough for anathetic for teeth & bloodwork today.

Svh

Post   » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:21 pm


Keep us updated. I'm hoping for the best for you guys.

Guineapun

Post   » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:29 pm


Overgrown teeth and a throat abscess. Dr. says she is recovering nicely and I can bring her home tomorrow. She's going to give me subcues for pain and antibiotics.

Svh thank you so much for recommending them. I'm taking my pigs there exclusively from now on. If I had gone there from the start I'd have saved over $300 in vet/car rental/medication bills and lots of heartache and stress to us both. She probably wouldn't have lost as much weight either. Now I know who to trust.

The doc that gave my baby such poor treatment was at Fruitland animal hospital. Can you believe the same day they sent me a marketing email linking to their reviews page? I'm disgusted by their attitude.

Svh

Post   » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:56 pm


So happy to hear that she has a proper diagnosis and so far treatment has been successful! She will be a lot more comfortable now and will likely be able to eat and swallow much more.

Did you end up taking her to campus estates?

That's very unfortunate about Fruitland. If you can, leave a review warning other people. To me, there is nothing worse than these under-educated vets claiming they treat guinea pigs (or any small pet) when in reality they have no idea what they are doing.

Guineapun

Post   » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:53 pm


Yes, I did take her to Campus Estates.

And I agree. I wonder how many pets are lost or suffer because well-meaning people take them to vets who make claims they can't back up or aren't really invested in exotics care.

Guineapun

Post   » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:06 pm


I'm just wondering- the doc said she had an abscess deep in her mouth/throat that they cleaned out as well as they could while she was under, but I doubt if I'll be able to flush it out with her awake. What should I ask the doc about internal abscess care? Will antibiotics be sufficient? Her sister died of abscesses.

Svh

Post   » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:45 pm


You're right, you would be unable to do any maintenance with the abscess due to its location. I imagine their hope is that the antibiotics will take of it and they will want to sedate her and recheck how its doing in 4-6 weeks or sooner if she is still having difficulty.

Just be sure to ask if there is anything specific you should be doing while you are picking her up. I imagine they will go through at home care with you though.

Regardless, with her teeth being overgrown they will want to do a recheck and re-trim (if necessary) in about 6 weeks. That seems to be their standard protocol when starting with dental pigs. Hopefully your girl won't need long term molar trims, but that seems to be the usual with pigs who teeth over grow once.

I'm happy Campus Estates was able to help. They have always been fabulous with me. I have 10 guinea pigs and have had multiple issues treated at the clinic. From bloat and stasis, bladder stones, molar trims, URI's and more. They have always been able to help, reasonable in pricing and I'm confident they provide the best medical care possible. They are also really good about getting you in on short notice, the receptionists understand that when you call with a sick guinea pig, they often need to be seen practically immediately.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:38 pm


Might the abscess be Cervical Lymphadenitis (CL) or "Lumps" ?
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Unsure where in the throat it is.

Guineapun

Post   » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:19 am


Lynx- thank you for bringing that link to my attention! I'll ask about it. I appreciate your help so much.

Svh- 10 pigs!? Wow! <3
Thanks for the warning about the periodic returns. It's good to have an idea what to expect. Yes and I'm so grateful that CVH obviously puts the care in but they still seem to work on keeping the cost as low as they can. I wish for exotic pet insurance in Canada!

Svh

Post   » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:04 pm


How's your girl? Were you able to pick her up today?

Guineapun

Post   » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:49 am


Picked her up, learned how to do subcue, brought her home. She seems better, peppy, interested, actually lying down instead of just hunching. She is slightly heavier and more willing to try eating, though it is still is challenge for her and we will keep up with the CC for a while. She ate some pellets and drank water on her own.

They've got her on lots of meds, the motility drugs seem to make her feel a lot better and she gets painkillers too. I'm keeping her seperate overnight to monitor her poops and give her a chance to eat without competition but she was very happy to see her family so I'm going to keep them together during the day.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:19 am


If you have a large cage, you could also partition a corner when you could give her extra food to eat without interruption. Do weigh her once or twice daily, if you aren't doing so already.

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GrannyJu1
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Post   » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:28 am


Remember, by separating them then putting them back together, they will have to choose top pig again each morning. Pain in the behind for us, but much more stressful for the pigs. You can separate them at meal times. I used to have to put each pig in a separate carrier to eat, for various reasons. It didn't take long for them to learn to simply walk into the carrier if they knew food was waiting. My biggest problem became letting the right pig into the right carrier!

Oh, and don't forget the probiotic. Something like Bene-bac 60-90 minutes after each dose of antibiotic.

Guineapun

Post   » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:32 pm


Lynx- thanks for the reminder. Weight seems to be holding steady. I'm going to invest in a digital scale for better accuracy.

The suggestion to split their cage is good, but I don't think it would work for our set up. Last night I tried placing the carrier in their cage and they are so strong, they started moving it with her inside!

Grannyju1- they don't seem to have any hierarchy trouble? I keep Zipper facing the others and within smelling distance. It seems to be okay so far.

Thanks for reminding me about probiotics!

She managed a pretty long chunk of dry corn husk without dropping it while in my lap today, though once she got to the wide part she had to stop. She also seems to be slowly getting her squeak back and she tried to steal chard from another pig :)

She is hanging very close to her mom, not so much hiding in the corner.

Svh

Post   » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:07 pm


I'm so happy to hear she's improving! Her eating should continue to improve over time. I definitely reccomend grabbing a scale. Weighing them is one of the best indications that something is going wrong. And now with having a pig that may require continued dentals, knowing her weight is key to determining how long she can go between trims.

All herds are different, if she's completely separated it's probably best to reintroduce them in a neutral area before putting them back in the cage. Most don't have much of an issue going back together though.

Guineapun

Post   » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:22 am


Glad I got the digital scale. My analog scale is over by about 30 grams. Her eating is slow, but she is getting better at holding food in her mouth and we are looking to schedule our return check up. :)

Guineapun

Post   » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:58 am


She is pooping out the CC within half an hour of feeding her, and it's very soft. Not quite runny/ CC consistency, but close. Is this diarrhea or is it normal with long term CC feeding?

She has a checkup tonight so I will ask the vet but I'm a bit worried.

bpatters
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Post   » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:41 am


CC affects the consistency of the poop.

But she's not pooping out what you're feeding her within a half hour. Transit time through a guinea pig is several hours, not a few minutes. What's likely happening is that feeding her stimulates gut action, so the poop that's close to the bottom of the intestine is expelled.

Poop that's runny is always a serious sign that needs vet attention.

Guineapun

Post   » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:57 pm


Vet says her temp is low enough to be worrysome and wants to keep her in hospital again. I can't afford another overnight in hospital. She's going to keep Zipper for a few hours in an incubator, hydrate and feed her. She hasn't gained weight and she was so bloated with gas last night. I am so worried.

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