parasite passed through urethra?

MKay

Post   » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:13 pm


Basil is a six and a half year old boar, developed a Uri early this year, has dropped from 1200ish down to 804g, stopped eating hay and nuggets. Teeth and mouth are fine, some small spurs developing due to low hay consumption but they are being monitored.
Down to eating only grass and dandelions on his own, hand feeding steeped nuggets and oxbow CC, upto 90g p day, supplementing fluid intake with 20ml juice also.
URI has been persistent, may be heart may be vets prescribing single week courses of AB's and clearing the infection.
Using Calpol as pain relief for uri and arthritis.

Wondered if weight loss could be parasidic nematode "Fluke" as this years wet weather has meant exceptional numbers. Treated with Fasinex.

So, whilst hand feeding him this morning he squeeked in pain and then partially passed what looks like a parasite out of his urethra, I have not heard of a parasite being passed from the bladder?

I will add a photo next, hopefully someone has knowledge on the subject.

bpatters
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Post   » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:07 pm


I'm very skeptical of a parasite in the bladder, although I suppose it's possible if it somehow made its way up the urethra. Do post a picture, as it will give us a much better idea of what's going on.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:53 pm


Yes, more likely the digestive tract.

You can send your picture to me if it is nice and clear:
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I can post it tomorrow.

MKay

Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:10 am


Considering I manually (carefully) drew the offending item from his urethra by hand, which drew out his shaft as it removed I can assure you of it's location. I am simply at a loss for what it might be.

On a good note basil has started eating a little on his own and is fighting me hand feeding him which is a good sign.

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PinkRufus
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Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:41 am


It's most likely a sperm rod. If you search that term in the medical forum, you will turn up several topics. Some may have photos.

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:43 am


Ditto PinkRufus.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:42 am


You guys called it! When I saw the pictures (before I logged in here and read her description of pulling it out of the penis), I knew right off what it was. So, no, this is not a parasite.

Some great pics, by the way! Here you go:





MKay

Post   » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:02 pm


Good evening all, thank you for your help, I have a fresh query.

Basil is eating well and at a consistent weight but the quantity is not allowing him to consume enough protein to rebuild muscle mass.
I wanted to increase his dietary protein by adding a vegan protein supplement consisting of pea and rice protein. My aim would be to increase his hard ration DP from 17% to 19/20%.

Is this a suitable product or does the rice protein make it un suitable?

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:36 pm


At his age, if he's not losing, I wouldn't push to make him gain weight. Weight loss in seniors is perfectly normal. Generally, they'll lose a little, plateau for a while, lose a little more, rinse and repeat.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:10 pm


Meanwhile, if you want to do some research on your own regarding dietary info, check the links on this page:
http://www.guinealynx.info/nutrition_links.html

Most specifically, Nutrient Requirements of Laboratory Animals, Fourth Revised Edition, 1995.
https://www.nap.edu/read/4758/chapter/1

MKay

Post   » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:14 am


Thank you. The weight loss could indeed by age related but it started when the he got the initial URI.
He dropped from 1100+ to 825 over six months before we began treating for HF, he is now hovering around 970g. So this could be his new weight range or it could be because he is not consuming sufficient protein to rebuild muscle mass(he has a portly gut but his spine is very light on muscle).

Am I correct that even 1g of rice protein a day would be unsuitable for a GP's digestive system?

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:48 pm


I can't answer your question for you.

That is indeed a huge amount of weight loss. Evaluate condition using a vet's guidelines on this page:
www.guinealynx.info/weigh.html

MKay

Post   » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:22 am


Our local vets are not interested in treating an elderly guinea pig and out here we don't have a choice if vets, not that we can visit on an on going basis.
Is the reason you can't answer because you don't have knowlage on the suitability of rice for GP's?

bpatters
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Post   » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:52 am


Rice is not something that would be found in a guinea pig's diet in the wild, and I suspect there's been no research on it. Peas are not generally recommended, because they're a "sweet" vegetable, and guinea pigs don't process sugar well.

My own feeling is that it probably wouldn't hurt, but whether it would help is unknown.

One friend of mine maintained the weight of her elderly guinea pig by feeding a dollop of Critical Care every day. There's some risk there, though, because CC is high in calcium, which may increase the risk of bladder stones. Her pig seemed to have a systemic resistance to stones, though, as he ate very high calcium foods all his life and never had a problem.

MKay

Post   » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:09 am


Thank for the reply, we have been using critical care mixed with steeped nuggets when we had to hand feed him. Now I am just using a couple of grams a day to give him his meds in (doxycycline and an ace inhibitor). As he is willingly eating his nuggets again now and maintaining his weight.

As the nuggets all contain soya hulls and soya oil it makes me wonder if a drop more soya meal would be the answer to boost his protein intake.(the nuggets are 17% and the hay is likely between 15-17%) just up to 19/20% whilst I get him upto 1050g.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:27 am


Please read over www.guinealynx.info/pellets.html too. Soy is not the best food for guinea pigs.

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mmeadow
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Post   » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:29 pm


If this elderly pig went from 1100+ to 825 and you got him back to 970, you are doing a good job at getting him to consume more calories. Most pigs lose weight as they age, often significantly. Continuing to supplement with just Critical Care and see if he continues to gain or maintain.

Boar_experience

Post   » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:51 pm


My young one I have peed out something like that. Didn't seem to be in pain but it sure freaked me out until I compared it to worm pictures.

MKay

Post   » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:01 am


Soya seems to be ab integral part of all the GP foods available here, we use Burgess excel. Does anyone know what the oxbow pellet uses as it's protein?

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Kimera

Post   » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:11 am


I think that what Lynx meant is that feeding additional soy or rice meal is not a good idea. Most commercial pellets are soy based. Commendable exception is KMS Hayloft pelleted food for guinea pigs, which is timothy grass based. It is only available in US. However, in Europe there are also JR Farm Grainless pellets. They don't contain any soy or grain, are mostly grass and herbs based. The protein and fat base is peas and faba beans.

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