Why are my piggies getting sick?

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:38 pm


GI issues are a new development for Mr Bubbles. He just turned 4 a couple of months ago, so I guess he's officially a senior pig now? Good news is that I can skip the early evening feeding. He grazed outside again and ate grass like his old self. Drank water several times too.

He's not out of the woods by any means but I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing. There's fresh hay in with him, so we'll see how much of that he eats and then I'll decide on how much critical care to give him. I will probably have to give him water, but he doesn't seem to mind that too much.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:50 am


We've used Cerenia often for our little dog who has bouts of gastritis. An injection lasts 24 hours and it does make them feel better overall. It must be pretty potent because it's used for animals who are ill from chemo. One vet told me it also had mild vasodilator properties and helped to open airways.

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:40 am


As long as it doesn't hurt him, I'm willing to try anything to help Mr Bubbles to get his appetite back. He got two pretty good turns on the lawn today and ate a good amount of grass. He didn't eat much of his veggies, so I thought I'd try romaine lettuce and he did eat that. I'm giving him a little bit of the critical care cocktail (Cc, Vitamin drops and Benebac probiotic) just to make sure he's got enough food in his system.

I was under the misconception that all antibiotics cause appetite loss, but I've read in several places that it's not usually the case. If an antibiotic alone causes total appetite loss, then the piggie is probably not tolerating it well. The only infection any of my guinea pigs have had which required oral antibiotics are digestive system or upper respiratory. They didn't lose appetite with the URI, or the bactrim (or baytril, cant remember which) they were treated with.

The other thing that hangs me up is that when I read about oral antibiotics for guinea pigs, it's usually bactrim or baytril. It's hard to find references on orbax being used to treat them. It knocked out Scruffy's infection in a matter of days and he was very near death from it. It also could have been what cleared up Mr Bubbles even though he was only on it for 3 days. I just don't know if that's what curbed his appetite like this, but he was starting to get it back with the critical care cocktail. It wasn't until after he had two doses of it that he stopped eating altogether.

He's coming back, but it's slow. The vet said to give him what he'll eat and plenty of water. I don't give him much romaine because of his age and the high calcium content. The same with dandelion greens, but if that's what he'll eat, then that's what he'll get until I get him eating again. He won't eat bell pepper, but what do you guys think about blending it up into a liquid that I can syringe feed him?

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:59 pm


Not as much improvement in Mr Bubbles as I'd like to see, but he is doing a little better. Still picking at the hay and lettuce, but he'll eat his fill of fresh grass. That's all fine and dandy but the grass is not going to be green for much longer. I'm hoping he'll get through this before it runs out. Still giving him the probiotic and vitamin drops in his critical care.

He's not lethargic and he comes out to greet me again. He'll even jump into my arms. He's drinking water on his own, but I'm still giving him extra with every syringe session. I think we're on the right track, so we're going to keep it going.

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Sef
I dissent.

Post   » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:51 pm


That's good news. I have an ill piggy myself at present, so I'm handfeeding too. Fingers crossed for continued improvement for our guys.

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:31 pm


If I were a sick piggie, I'd want you to care for me, Sef. I hope your little one has a speedy recovery!

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Sef
I dissent.

Post   » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:13 pm


Aw, thank you! Harold is my special old boy. :)

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:02 pm


Same for me with Mr Bubbles. He is the first guinea pig I got when we decided to get guinea pigs again. More like my wife decided to get one for our 11 year old granddaughter and I ended up taking over when she inevitably lost interest. Oh she still loves him and all of the piggies, but not anywhere near the level that I do. He was the cutest little pup! He was 5 weeks old and so tiny.

I've since been educated on pet store pigs, but I still have so much sympathy for the babies in the store. I just wish I could adopt them all and let them grow up in a loving and caring home with all of the nurturing I can give them; without supporting the cruel process that puts them there in the first place. Sometimes I wish I could open a licensed, properly maintained, cavy vet supervised, humane and holistic type of breeding outfit. That's not really feasible for me since I don't have the means and probably never will.

Anyway, I gave Mr Bubbles a wide variety of veggies last night and he ate some, but not all of them. He did eat more hay than he has since the onset of this thing. There was a nice amount of regular sized droppings under his house when I checked on him this morning. I'm still not comfortable with his food intake. It's quite a bit less than I'm used to seeing him eat.

It's very nice out today so I'm taking him out there to eat as much as he wants. I got to do that twice yesterday and he ate a lot. It was enough so that I didn't have to do a full critical care feeding, but I still gave him the cocktail. That could explain why he didn't eat the veggies. We're still pressing forward. He's getting back to his more active self. Let's hope he is all the way back soon.

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Sef
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Post   » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:35 pm


The normal-sized droppings is a very good sign. I'm so glad to hear he seems to be doing a little better every day.

Keep up the good work, both of you. :)

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:48 pm


I hope you both get your piggies back on track again. When mine was ill from Baytril I was lucky to have corn husks in the freezer that I kept for a treat. It was the one thing she continued to eat and apparently that had enough fiber to keep her digestion moving. If there is still sweet corn available where you live it would be worth getting some for the husks.

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:28 am


It's slow, but I'd rather have that than him getting worse. It took him half the day, but he did finish his large romaine lettuce leaf. That to go with the grass and parsley. I also saw him eating some hay and he's had plenty of water. I'm going to try mashing up some bell pepper into a liquid to go with his probiotic and vitamins.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:14 am


Refresh my mind - does he have any issues with sludge or stones? I ask because both romaine and parsley seem to be items that should be avoided. Fresh grass is fine.

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:47 pm


No issues with sludge or stones. Given his age, I've been avoiding giving him romaine lettuce for quite some time and I have kept his parsley intake to a minimum as well. He's getting them now because that's all I've been able to get him to eat in the way of veggies. That's only been for the past couple of days. He did well eating today.

On another note, I went to get a bale of hay today and found some pure 100% timothy hay pellets. Nothing else in them except timothy hay. He seems to like them, so that's good.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:08 am


I think it took about a week before mine was eating normally so by that time I was a nervous wreck with a sick stomach! I’m glad to hear he is starting to eat more and slowly getting better. Keep doing what you’re doing!

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:25 pm


Progress is still going steady for Mr Bubbles. He's eating enough to sustain his weight so far and I haven't had to give him any critical care or probiotic for the second night in a row. I've been getting him out a couple of times a day for at least half an hour to eat his fill of fresh grass. He's been eating his lettuce and hay, plus he's back to drinking his normal amount of water.

His tastes have definitely changed. He doesn't favor bell pepper as much as he used to and will only eat a few bites of it, but he does eat small amounts of tomato now. He takes a lot longer to eat than before too. It more of a steady intake throughout the day than gobbling up large amounts at once. He does eat all of the lettuce right away. It just takes him several more minutes because he bites off less at a time, almost like he wants to savor it. I thought he might have a problem with his teeth, but he's not having any trouble chewing. Also, I'm not seeing any other signs of that. I think he's just settling into being a senior piggie like BJ.

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Sef
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Post   » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:46 pm


Very good. I wonder if the bell pepper might have been what caused the stomach upset to begin with. Maybe he's shying away from it for that reason? Just a thought. I wouldn't completely rule out dental issues, though. Even if he can chew okay, there could be pain or inflammation causing some issues. I do hope he continues to improve and do well.

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Post   » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:33 pm


Good progress. It's always a good sign when they can maintain their weight on their own. The change in the way he's eating is puzzling.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:01 am


Glad to hear he’s keeping his weight up. It sounds like a dental issue is possible, but hopefully he will keep getting better.

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:14 am


Mr Bubbles chews on everything. Even when his activity level dropped, he still sat in his house and chewed on the sides of it. His wood block and wicker ball are both pretty chewed up too. He's doing enough chewing to keep his teeth down. They're not overgrown and he's not showing any signs of other dental issues. The vet looked in his mouth and said that as far as she can tell without an x-ray, his teeth are fine.

All of my pigs get tired of the same veggies day in and day out. That's why I change them up constantly. I gave Mr Bubbles a few days break from the bell pepper and am giving him a small slice of cucumber instead because it has a lot of water in it, which he needs right now. I'm seeing him eat more hay than he has before too. I wouldn't complain about that. I think his taste has just changed with age.

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Sef
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Post   » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:39 am


Picky little guy! :) Our guys eat pretty much anything and everything, but I don't give them a lot of variety these days due to Harold's tummy troubles.

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